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Issue 44

Ask Zeno

about Activism

by Zeno

Zeno is asked about activism this month. Read his answer and participate in the discussion!

Dear Zeno,

As a Stoic, I'm caught between knowing that in the end life is good no matter what happens, and the fact that there are certain movements (antislavery, nuclear disarmament, etc.) that I feel are beneficial to everyone and should be supported due to our duty to humanity. How can a Stoic weigh acceptance against civil duty? To what extent should a Stoic be an activist?

I have heard that the early Stoics participated in politics in order to fulfill this duty but eventually decided that teaching others through lectures and writing would suffice, saving them the disturbances that come from the passionate argumentation of politics. Are there preferable methods of working for humanity (methods that are more efficient, peaceful, or morally sound than others)?

These are only a few of the questions that I can think to ask about "Stoic activism," I hope the word grouping, like "Stoic joy," isn't as contradictory as it seems!

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Dear Stoic,

Regarding your first paragraph, you must not think that because we should accept the outcome of our actions, we are entitled to act in any way. Surely, you do not think so, since you fully recognize that some actions are beneficial to mankind.

There is no magical recipe to find what is virtuous or not, and there is no Sage to guide us. So we have to weigh our actions ourselves, take as much as we can into consideration, and decide in which world we want to live, which kind of society we want to be a part of, and how much effort we can contrivute to these questions.

Does the idea of slavery seem unacceptable to you? Then you will have to find out how much effort you can afford to join the struggle against slavery. Do the nuclear weapons seem an immediate danger for mankind to you? Then again, how much effort can you allow in the situation you are in to fight against it?

Bear in mind that from the Stoic point of view, there is nothing good outside of virtue, and you actions can only favour highly preferred indifferents for others (the real good, though, they can only do it to themselves). But as a Stoic, you have the moral obligation to care for these preferred indifferents, because they are the best ground where virtue can flourish.

Every human being is a whole person, though, tied in a network of relationships, and thus having many different kinds of duties. Some have very important parental duty, for example if they have a "disabled" child (some might with good reason prefer to think of the disabled as simply differently enabled), and they might decide after careful examination that their parental duty is more immediate than the urge to fight actively against nuclear armament, even though they are fully aware of the potential danger.

But if the Stoic has a duty to act for the common good, he must also accept the consequences of his actions. What is the benefit of such or such particular action? What is your expectation in doing it? Is it to correct all wrongs? If yes, you are a fool, since you will never succeed. You are likely to never do as much good as you intend, and you are even likely to do some wrong. You must face all these eventualities, ponder when the risk is too high of doing wrong, and when it is acceptable. You may probably also be mislead, be cheated, be arrested, beaten, jailed, or whatever, depending on the kind of action that you choose. You must be prepared to all the possible outcomes, and never fall into resentment or disappointment.

I hope that this answer gave you something to think about.

Don't forget, if you want to reach Zeno, to ask a question or whatever other reason, send an email to askzeno@newstoa.info !

Comments

#31 Ask Zeno
by Erik Wiegardt

I was concerned by the initial writer's comment thrown in at the end of his question. He said, "I hope the word grouping, like "Stoic joy," isn't as contradictory as it seems!"

Without elaboration, I'm not sure if he actually believes it is an oxymoron, but just in case he does I want to assure him that it is not. This is not an opinion but an historical fact. Joy is considered one of the 3 good emotions that Stoics are expected to cultivate and enjoy.

Don't be misled by the dictionary definition of our philosophy. If you are really interested in knowing Stoicism I strongly encourage you to enroll in the College of Stoic Philosophers' Stoic Essential Studies course so you won't have to wonder about such things again.

#32 Ask Zeno
by Christopher Haddlesey

Hello Erik, I am the one who wrote in. My comment was meant to be a lighthearted aside, making a reference to William B. Irvine's "The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy." In the book, Mr. Irvine clarifies the common misconception and I apologize for not making myself clear. I don't claim to know very much, but I'll be more serious in the future. I've already enrolled in the SES course and will be beginning in a couple weeks and I am looking forward to its help.

Zeno, thank you for your comments. I think the idea of working towards "the best ground where virtue can flourish" (in a reasonable manner) answers my question. The idea that acceptance and duty can be seen to conflict bothered me and I hadn't put enough thought into it. Maybe this was a question about a basic tenet of Stoicism rather than a practical application and would be better directed towards my Mentor. I apologize if the question was inappropriate for this column, I had heard that there was a lack of applicable questions and I thought I would help. I will put more thought into my questions in the future.

Respectfully,

Chris

#33 Ask Zeno
by Yasin Tokat

I would argue that one can be certain about the things that are the best for humanity. Perhaps a thing which benefits humanity can be malignant for nature. Perhaps, destruction of humanity at some levels is better for all. Who would claim the opposite of this? Think that if dinosaurs were alive, would humanity find any chance to come into existence? Everything works accordingly and with providence in nature. Nothing leads to evil. What separates homo sapiens from other animals is the possession of mental faculty. To us, having right reason is virtue, and evil is there where it lacks. At best, we are responsible for our way of living. This is why there is no Stoic doctrine. Hence, we should behold and try to understand what is going on. With this we might be able to take our lessons and find our path. What I am saying is, we should promote the pursuit of the path which the reason commands. Through this, people might be able strike a balance, rather than leaving themselves in the middle of a destruction.

Best regards,

Yasin


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